Sunday, April 20, 2014

Sandy Hook Newtown CT.,Principal Dawn Hochsprung : 911 director Maureen Will And Discrepency In December 14,2013 Phone Calls,Firing of Whistleblower Worth County E911 Director Kannetha Clem

Sandy Hook Newtown CT.,Principal Dawn Hochsprung : 911 director Maureen Will And Discrepency  In December 14,2013 Phone Calls,Firing of Whistleblower Worth County E911 Director Kannetha Clem



 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
More interesting observations by Ms. Clem, referring to Maureen Will's presentation:

*Within four hours of the incident, media had swarmed the area and blocked streets preventing rescue crews from entering or leaving the area.

*Only two victims were actually transported to the hospital.

May I be permitted an Eastertide "WTF" on that last one?

Four victims were transported (right?)

Or does Maureen possibly mean that only two victims were transported by ambulance?

Wouldn't that in fact make more sense? That Natalie Hammond was taken by A3 (with no child doubled up as claimed)?

And that, as one police report states, the black SUV took two children to Danbury--including the boy claimed to have been loaded into A3, but who may have actually remained in the SUV?

That leaves OE in A2, and Ms. Pisani forgotten (as usual) later on in a Storms ambulance.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2533282/pg1
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Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
"Understand we only received four 911 land line calls."

10:25 here:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Then why are seven included in the Newtown land line 911 call release--only one of which was from an actual land line, the second of which was a duplicate of the first, and the remainder which were cellphone transfers, not land line?

God, this rabbit hole.
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BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
In March of 2013, Newtown E911 director Maureen Will made a rather startling public statement that has apparently gone unnoticed:

"[T]he Connecticut 911 director explained that her office only received four calls concerning the school shooting on December 14.

At approximately 9:35 a.m., 911 received a call stating the principal had already been killed.

At 9:37, a janitor reported that there may be multiple shooters, and at

9:39, a teacher, who was later killed, called to inform 911 that she was hiding her students in a closet. The Newtown director would not discuss the fourth call."

[link to thesylvesterlocal.com]

Now we know why officials released cellphone transfers as "Newtown landline" calls--as we suggested, it was to cover up the questionable suggestion that there was only one land line call made from Sandy Hook School. Another possibility is that some of these calls, too, were cellphone transfers, and simply omitted from both the Newtown and CSP records. This would mean Newtown police and state police conspired to eliminate or destroy evidence (or that Stephen Sedensky did it on their behalf).

New questions:

1. Who called 911 from a land line at 9:35 stating Dawn Hochsprung had perished, and where is this call? One possibility is Natalie Hammond--there have been occasional references (propagandist mistakes?) to her calling 911, which would now make sense.

2. Where is the janitor's call at 9:37 reporting multiple shooters, ostensibly from a hallway or office land line? There has been confusion over Rick Thorne's calls and movements--maybe this is one reason why.

3. Which teacher, later deceased, called 911 from a classroom land line? As we asked before, what are the odds neither Ms. Soto nor Ms. Rousseau nor any of their assistants called 911? Is this most likely from Room 8?
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Wow.

Is this related?

The woman who made Maureen Will's (Newtown EMS director's) speech public is Kannetha Clem.

From the article above:

Worth County E911 Director Kannetha Clem attended a conference in Athens held by the National Emergency Number Association (NENA), and APCO (a global communications consultancy). During the three-day GECC (Georgia Emergency Communications Conference), Newtown, Connecticut E911 Director Maurine Will spoke publicly for the first time since that tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14. Though the presentation in Athens could not be recorded in any way, Clem assembled some notes comparing Newtown’s 911 to our headquarters in Sylvester.

That conference was in March of 2013:

Six months later Clem got the axe:

County Attorney Resigns as E911 Director is Suspended and Faces Possible Termination
September 23, 2013,
By Kellie Chapman

Last Friday morning, Worth County E911 Director Kannetha Clem was asked to meet with the Board of Commissioners at 1 p.m. Though Mrs. Clem was currently out on sick leave, she chose to be present for the meeting.
Commissioners Joe Gaines and Mack Sutton explained to Mrs. Clem that it was a “concensus of the Board” that her servies were no longer needed and cited specifically referenced a post on her personal facebook page as well as her “overall general attitude”. Clem refused to resign, so she was suspended with pay until the Board could meet for a vote.


[link to thesylvesterlocal.com
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 "Worth commissioners uphold termination decision
by Courtney Highfield
Posted: 10.10.2013 at 10:49 AM

SYLVESTER, GA --
The Worth County Board of Commissioners held a special called meeting Thursday morning to discuss their decision to terminate the E-911 director one last time.

The chairman polled the board members to see if they still felt the same about the decision; had their answers changed Kannetha Clem would've been reinstated."

[link to www.mysouthwestga.com
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Just going over this now, OP. 5 stars for diligence and a good eye.

bump

eta...

Newtown maintains an active shooter policy and holds one training exercise per month while Worth County currently has no protocol to handle such a terrible event.

One active shooter training exercise PER MONTH?

eta...

Will went on to emphasize the importance of implementing a “mass casualty plan,” and stated that her 911 center had just set up such a plan two days before the shooting took place.

*Channeling the Church Lady*

Well...isn't that conveeeeenient?

Last Edited by swansong on 04/19/2014 03:22 PM
A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value -
Issac Asimov
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Really, really want to get Clem's full notes, and/or notes from other conference attendees. It was when trying to track her down that I found out she'd been fired.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
I would recommend scouring the web (some more) for any talks given by Maureen Will and the EMS side of things, as well as of course the LE side. Some of the most revealing info to date has come from unintentional release of details during LE conferences; I guess the same must be true of EMS conferences.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Haven't watched yet but:

[link to www.ravemobilesafety.com]

Or via YT:

[link to www.youtube.com
 Maureen Will, the Director of the Emergency Communication Center in Newtown, CT, recalls the devastating mass shooting that took place on December 14th, 2012 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in the context of emergency management and response.

 http://www.ravemobilesafety.com/maureen-will-keynote/


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Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Starting to feel spooky about this--I fast-forwarded quickly into the vid and it was Ms. Will holding up four fingers--for four 911 calls. I kid you not.

Starting to think the dishes can wait.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Apparently the county attorney resigned over her suspension/firing.

[link to thesylvesterlocal.com]
A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value -
Issac Asimov
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Apparently the county attorney resigned over her suspension/firing.

[link to thesylvesterlocal.com]
 Quoting: swansong


Looks like she may have had other things going on (allegedly she was fired for referring to the criminal records of some new hires), but again this may be an excuse. Hard to know. The cty atty did say in his resignation statement that she had done the right thing by exposing the criminal records--maybe this doesn't have to do with Sandy Hook.

But giving a story to the local paper saying Maureen Will listed (henceforth secret) 911 calls, one coming from a teacher who later died?? And that a janitor reported multiple shooters?

I don't know. Just another Sandy Hook coincidence?.................


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Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
I found her FB posts. They don't seem that outrageous. Just sounds like she's concerned about safety.

Re: The comment above by Will about the "2 days before"...there's also this.

The center has staff of 10 people, including Will, who said they had received active-shooter training only the month before the tragedy and put it to work by keeping their composure during the ordeal.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value -
Issac Asimov
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
I found her FB posts. They don't seem that outrageous. Just sounds like she's concerned about safety.

Re: The comment above by Will about the "2 days before"...there's also this.

The center has staff of 10 people, including Will, who said they had received active-shooter training only the month before the tragedy and put it to work by keeping their composure during the ordeal.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: swansong


Great find. That's just--again, hard to swallow.

Sometimes it's hard to know which is cause and which is effect, I guess; i.e. do EMS centers just tend to get training and updates regularly, such that at any given moment they could say "Oh, we just had this training!" or "We just updated our system!" ?

Also caught myself wondering why, why, why is she stressing these calls?

Why would you focus on them, stress them, number them, and name the callers in multiple public presentations?

It could be because (in at least the two cases I've seen) she's speaking at a 911 conference, I suppose; and if there were really only four calls--I guess you stress those?

But why does she insist on calling them land line 911 calls?

A land line 911 call is a call made FROM a land line. Not a call made from a cellphone to the CSP and transferred to Newtown.

Haven't been able to finish video yet--has anyone seen whether she described the fourth call in this case?

Obviously the calls she's detailing in this conference do not match with the calls Clem heard described.

I have a hard time believing Clem is simply mistaken; there's too much detail.

Maybe this is why Will went on to focus on the (revamped) list of four calls; the calls Clem heard described were in March, and perhaps the story had changed by the time of this video. I.e. in this video, Will is specifically going for damage control.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
And then there's this from Pg 24 of Sedensky's original report summary.

Classroom 12 was located on the north side of the north hallway and was the first classroom east of the front lobby. The classroom door was located 23 feet east of the lobby. The window to the door was covered on the hallway side with dark colored paper that was there from a previous lockdown drill.
A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value -
Issac Asimov
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Holy crap!

They can't even get their lying bs correct!

There were no calls...no legit calls..LMAO!

Know why?

Because when nobody dies, no help is needed.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
And then there's this from Pg 24 of Sedensky's original report summary.

Classroom 12 was located on the north side of the north hallway and was the first classroom east of the front lobby. The classroom door was located 23 feet east of the lobby. The window to the door was covered on the hallway side with dark colored paper that was there from a previous lockdown drill.
 Quoting: swansong


Indeed, and that would be our friend Kaitlyn Roig's room - the one who "lost" her phone which required half the police present to go searching for it? What if the drill participant phones were cell phones that appeared as land line calls to the 911 operators? Roig is still a wild card in Sandy Hook that needs fuller explanation along with stuffing 14 kids in a closet-sized bathroom.

The AP FOI hearing was interesting when Sedensky hedged about not listening to the 911 calls. Bullshit! He was doing his best to cover that aspect up and trivialize it but nobody else was buying it.

Great find OP. Wish I could add more on the subject but the calls were one of the things I never put much attention to.

Last Edited by FlashBuzzkill on 04/19/2014 09:17 PM
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
And then there's this from Pg 24 of Sedensky's original report summary.

Classroom 12 was located on the north side of the north hallway and was the first classroom east of the front lobby. The classroom door was located 23 feet east of the lobby. The window to the door was covered on the hallway side with dark colored paper that was there from a previous lockdown drill.
 Quoting: swansong


Indeed, and that would be our friend Kaitlyn Roig's room - the one who "lost" her phone which required half the police present to go searching for it? What if the drill participant phones were cell phones that appeared as land line calls to the 911 operators? Roig is still a wild card in Sandy Hook that needs fuller explanation along with stuffing 14 kids in a closet-sized bathroom.

The AP FOI hearing was interesting when Sedensky hedged about not listening to the 911 calls. Bullshit! He was doing his best to cover that aspect up and trivialize it but nobody else was buying it.

Great find OP. Wish I could add more on the subject but the calls were one of the things I never put much attention to.
 Quoting: FlashBuzzkill


The same Kaitlin Roig that at some point during the shooting ran out of the tiny bathroom to look for her phone?
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
In March of 2013, Newtown E911 director Maureen Will made a rather startling public statement that has apparently gone unnoticed:

"[T]he Connecticut 911 director explained that her office only received four calls concerning the school shooting on December 14.

At approximately 9:35 a.m., 911 received a call stating the principal had already been killed.

At 9:37, a janitor reported that there may be multiple shooters, and at

9:39, a teacher, who was later killed, called to inform 911 that she was hiding her students in a closet. The Newtown director would not discuss the fourth call."

[link to thesylvesterlocal.com]

Now we know why officials released cellphone transfers as "Newtown landline" calls--as we suggested, it was to cover up the questionable suggestion that there was only one land line call made from Sandy Hook School. Another possibility is that some of these calls, too, were cellphone transfers, and simply omitted from both the Newtown and CSP records. This would mean Newtown police and state police conspired to eliminate or destroy evidence (or that Stephen Sedensky did it on their behalf).

New questions:

1. Who called 911 from a land line at 9:35 stating Dawn Hochsprung had perished, and where is this call? One possibility is Natalie Hammond--there have been occasional references (propagandist mistakes?) to her calling 911, which would now make sense.

2. Where is the janitor's call at 9:37 reporting multiple shooters, ostensibly from a hallway or office land line? There has been confusion over Rick Thorne's calls and movements--maybe this is one reason why.

3. Which teacher, later deceased, called 911 from a classroom land line? As we asked before, what are the odds neither Ms. Soto nor Ms. Rousseau nor any of their assistants called 911? Is this most likely from Room 8?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57051400


Yeah, the whole thing was fake, just like the Boston Marathon bombing.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
More interesting observations by Ms. Clem, referring to Maureen Will's presentation:

*Within four hours of the incident, media had swarmed the area and blocked streets preventing rescue crews from entering or leaving the area.

*Only two victims were actually transported to the hospital.

May I be permitted an Eastertide "WTF" on that last one?

Four victims were transported (right?)

Or does Maureen possibly mean that only two victims were transported by ambulance?

Wouldn't that in fact make more sense? That Natalie Hammond was taken by A3 (with no child doubled up as claimed)?

And that, as one police report states, the black SUV took two children to Danbury--including the boy claimed to have been loaded into A3, but who may have actually remained in the SUV?

That leaves OE in A2, and Ms. Pisani forgotten (as usual) later on in a Storms ambulance.
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
So the proposed sequence would be:

A2 - takes OE
A3 - takes Natalie Hammond
Black SUV - takes BW and AMG
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 Re: BREAKING: Sandy Hook EMS director reveals missing 911 calls from Room 8 or 10; another re multiple shooters
Also from this conference (Clem's notes on Will's talk):

"Newtown has five (all volunteer) fire departments, as well as three fully staffed ambulances (though one was out of service)."

One was out of service.

Did A3 really hang around waiting for more patients? Or given the fact a woman had just been brought to them with multiple GSW did A3 in fact hit the road?
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