San Bernardino Islamic Shooting:U.S.Navy's Syed Farook's Israeli Russian Wife An Arms Trafficker ?

San Bernardino Islamic Shooting:U.S.Navy's Syed Farook's Israeli Russian Wife An Arms Trafficker ?

EXCLUSIVE New riddle of San Bernardino massacre ... - Daily Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../EXCLUSIVE-New-riddle-San-Bernardino-mass...

Dec 24, 2015 - EXCLUSIVE New riddle of San Bernardino massacre: Russian sisters married to shooters' 'terrorist' neighbor and brother have links to Israel - and murderer's brother was quizzed about domestic violence just before attacks. ... The pair are at the center of a complex web of personal ...

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/pages/jl0314.aspx

The following eight individuals and entities are owned or controlled by, provide material support to, and/or are acting for or on behalf of, the previously designated Gennady Timchenko and his network: Sven Olsson, Avia Group Terminal Limited Liability Company, Transservice LLC, Lerma Trading, LTS Holding Ltd., Maples S.A., Fentex Properties Ltd. and White Seal Holdings.  The following three entities are owned or controlled by the previously designated brothers Arkady and Boris Rotenberg: Volgogradneftemash, Moskovskiy Oblatstnoy Bank, and Investment Republic Bank LLC.  Finally, the following three individuals are being designated for acting for or on behalf of the previously designated entities Kalashnikov Concern and Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC (also known as Baikal): Eduard Ioffe, Vakhtang Karamyan, and Tatiana Chernykh.

Not sure about all of this but....

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**Plausible**

An update to some of this is that someone by the name of Tatiana Chernykh has been sanctioned by the U.S treasuries department for working with the Russian arms manufacturing company Khalashnikov.
https://www.treasury.gov/press-cente...es/jl0314.aspx

Also some pieces that everyone are missing is the real info on Frank Gigliotti it's the longest most important part of all of this connect the dots. It would seem he was actually Gladio/OSS/CIA. If you read the following link it explains all that in detail, its interesting to note that he had major ties to the San Diego and California are and the Masonic lodges? Most of the Stuff is FOIA stuff but if you or someone you know can read Italian there is dozens hundreds upon hundreds of Italian articles that have been written on him.
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/20...n-oss-and-cia/

If you google the name Giggliotti and Pizza you will find stories about a massive international drug bust that took place in early 2014 against the ndrangheta mafia organization based in Calabria Sicily. At the time of the bust the organizations annual revenue was said to be more than McDonald's and Deutsche bank combined(1). Calabria if you're unaware is the location where all of Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles were slated to be destroyed(2). This after the international community couldn't find a suitable/reliable disposal method supposedly so like with anything as dangerous as chemical weapons they went to the lowest bidder.... The Mafia. The investigations/arrests bizarrely coincide with the rise of Isis in Iraq/Syria,Ukraine/Crimea and Europe migrant exodus timelines perfectly. Go ahead google them and overlay it all, find a statistician if you can. But there are way too many coincidences if you ask me. Especially when you consider an organization with a net revenue more than that of McDonald's and Deutsche bank, and when you take time to read about all about Frank Gigliotti's Gladio/OSS/CIA ties, and all the threads of the web in this case.

The Daily Mail article states that Tatiana's first husband worked at a pizza shop and there are pictures of her second husband Raheel driving a pizza delivery vehicle also possibly in the Virginia area which is where his "Navy" career would have ended in 2007 (also first identified then corrected as the original shooter yo the daily beast(3)). Which brings me to my next part which is Sunny's taxi/Limo, it might not be a stretch to believe that a decorated "Navy" veteran pizza driver might also have worked for this company. I'm not sure if this is the exact same Raheel Farooq but I found a Pakistani owned limo service in the Virginia/D.C area that just so happens to specialize in high end clientele like Hillary Clinton, John McCain, John Kerry as well as other heads of state.(4) But they also specialize in delivering Pakistani heads of state and military officials. (5) There was a lawsuit in which they were depriving there employees of overtime and they sued, named in the lawsuit is a driver Raheel Farooq.(6) Not sure if it's the same guy but I found his badge and current carrier number he's number 23 on the list (7) Of importance of this I think is the timing of the visit of the shooting and a visit of a Pakistani General named General Raheel Farook Sharif to Washington to speak with CIA director John Brennan Nov 16-21(8) But that visit came only a little over a month after being to Turkey asserting support and Shaking Erdogan's hand(9) Less than one week after General Raheel's U.S visit, Erdogan's NATO Turkey shot down a Russian jet after a 17 second incursion into Turkish airspace on November 24th(10) Immediately after his Washington visit General Raheel signed the black warrants for several Pakistani tribal terrorists. This effectively has declared a renewed war on "extremism" within Pakistan(11). If you do any Google search just try accompanying it with the word Coup, as many believe he wrested power away in a thus far bloodless Coup (12) Maybe there is more to what Seymour Hersh had to say about the facts of a Rogue Pakistani Faction holding Osama Bin Laden prisoner for years for Saudi Arabia. (13).

All Hail Gladio

Sources:

1) https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4504-...york-and-italy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ps-reveal.html

2)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...bria-port.html

3)http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ed-farook.html
http://gawker.com/how-the-daily-beas...nar-1745970158

4)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4480736.html

5)http://www.dawn.com/news/1075797

6)http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/sunnyslawsuit.pdf

7)http://webapp.psc.state.md.us/intran..._new.cfm?var=F

8)http://www.livemint.com/Politics/j2l...role-grow.html
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/j2l...role-grow.html

9)http://tribune.com.pk/story/972894/support-for-turkey/
http://thelondonpost.net/pakistan-st...sm-gen-sharif/

10)http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...der-with-syria
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/middle...turkey-border/

11)http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakis...ck-terrorists/


12)http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/g.../1/456837.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/wo...g-so.html?_r=0


13)http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour...sama-bin-laden

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San Bernardino terror attack Russian sisters have links to Israel | Daily ...

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../EXCLUSIVE-New-riddle-San-Bernardino-mass...

Dec 24, 2015 - Tatiana and Mariya Chernykh are both Russian-born but their parents now reside in Israel. Tatiana married the brother of the San Bernardino shooter andMariya his ... His immigration or citizenship status is unknown.

3 people tied to shooter in San Bernardino terrorist attack arrested on ...

https://www.ice.gov/.../3-people-tied-shooter-san-bernardino-terrorist-att...

Apr 28, 2016 - 2, 2015, terrorist attack at the San Bernardino Inland Regional ...Mariya Chernykh, 26, of Ontario, who, according to official records, ... The investigation determined Marquez agreed to marry Chernykh so she could obtain immigration ... at Syed Raheel Farook and Tatiana Farook's residence in Corona.

We The People Report | Bombshell Report: San Bernardino Attack ...

www.wethepeoplereport.com/israel/san-bernardino-links-to-israel/

Dec 28, 2015 - Bombshell Report: San Bernardino Attack Links to Israel ... Hisimmigration status is unclear but her visa is set to be revoked – although with two ... Family: The Chernykh sisters Mariya (second from left) and Tatiana (right) are ...

San Bernardino shooter's friend Enrique Marquez accused of fraud in ...

www.latimes.com/.../la-me-ln-enrique-marquez-immigration-fraud-marri...

Dec 18, 2015 - San Bernardino shooter's friend Enrique Marquez accused of fraud in ... in federal court in Riverside on terrorism and immigration fraud charges. ... Marquezhad eloped with Mariya Chernykh, the sister of Tatiana ... The witnesses to Marquezand Chernykh's marriage were Syed Raheel and Tatiana Farook, 

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San Bernardino Attack: Visas, Wives and Terror - ABC News

abcnews.go.com/International/san-bernardino-attack-visas.../story?id...

Dec 9, 2015 - San Bernardino Attack Leads to Questions on Another Marriage. ... his name on a gun registry -- was Marquez's marriage to Mariya Chernykh. ... Tatiana, who is married to Syed Raheel Farook, the brother of San Bernardino ... Bernard Wolfsdorf, an immigration lawyer based out of Los Angeles, said the ...

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/pages/jl0314.aspx

 Treasury Sanctions Individuals and Entities for Sanctions Evasion and Other Activities Related to Russia and Ukraine

12/22/2015

​Underscores U.S. Commitment To Work With The EU To Maintain The Efficacy Of Existing Sanctions Until Russia Fully Complies With Its International Obligations With Respect To Ukraine

WASHINGTON – To maintain the efficacy of existing sanctions, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) today designated and identified dozens of individuals and entities under four executive orders (E.O.s) related to Russia and Ukraine.  Today’s action is part of OFAC’s continued effort to counter attempts to circumvent these sanctions, to further align U.S. measures with those of its international allies, and to provide additional information to assist the private sector with sanctions compliance.

“It is critical that Russia takes the steps necessary to comply with its obligations under the Minsk Agreements and to ensure a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine,” said John E. Smith, Acting OFAC Director.  “By more closely matching our designations with those of our international partners and thwarting attempts to evade sanctions¸ we are once again demonstrating the United States’ unwavering resolve to pressure Russia to respect the security and sovereignty of Ukraine.”

In today’s action, OFAC named 34 individuals and entities under Ukraine-related sanctions authorities.  This includes 14 individuals and entities linked to those that have engaged in serious and sustained evasion of existing sanctions or are 50 percent or more owned by a designated entity; six separatists designated for threatening the security or stability of Ukraine; two former Ukrainian government officials for being complicit in the misappropriation of public assets and/or threatening the security or stability of Ukraine; and 12 entities for operating in the Crimea region of Ukraine.  OFAC also identified a number of subsidiaries that are owned 50 percent or more by the previously-designated VTB Bank, Sberbank, and Rostec.

Today’s steps support the U.S. commitment to seek a diplomatic resolution to the crisis in Ukraine by maintaining our sanctions on Russia.  Those sanctions will not begin to be rolled back until Russia fully implements its commitments under the Minsk Agreements, including the return to Ukraine of control of its side of the international border with Russia.  These steps also demonstrate our sustained commitment to a policy of non-recognition with respect to Russia’s purported annexation of Crimea, and our intent to maintain Crimea-related sanctions until Russia ends its occupation of the peninsula.  A number of the individuals and entities designated today have also been previously designated by the European Union (EU), underscoring continued trans-Atlantic unity in responding to Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Designations Regarding Sanctions Evasion (E.O. 13661)

Today’s action targets 14 individuals and entities pursuant to E.O. 13661, which authorizes sanctions on, among others, any individual or entity that is owned or controlled by, or that has supported, an individual or entity previously designated under this E.O.  These sanction targets are linked to designated persons Gennady Timchenko, Arkady Rotenberg, Boris Rotenberg, Kalashnikov Concern, and Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC (also known as Baikal), all of whom have engaged in serious and sustained sanctions evasion.

The following eight individuals and entities are owned or controlled by, provide material support to, and/or are acting for or on behalf of, the previously designated Gennady Timchenko and his network: Sven Olsson, Avia Group Terminal Limited Liability Company, Transservice LLC, Lerma Trading, LTS Holding Ltd., Maples S.A., Fentex Properties Ltd. and White Seal Holdings.  The following three entities are owned or controlled by the previously designated brothers Arkady and Boris Rotenberg: Volgogradneftemash, Moskovskiy Oblatstnoy Bank, and Investment Republic Bank LLC.  Finally, the following three individuals are being designated for acting for or on behalf of the previously designated entities Kalashnikov Concern and Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod JSC (also known as Baikal): Eduard Ioffe, Vakhtang Karamyan, and Tatiana Chernykh.

Designations Regarding Separatists (E.O. 13660)

Today’s action also targets six Ukrainian separatists pursuant to E.O. 13660, who are already on the EU sanctions list, for being responsible for or complicit in actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; for acting for or on behalf of previously designated groups as leaders of such entities; or for asserting governmental authority over a part or region of Ukraine without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine.  This action is being taken as part of an ongoing effort to hold accountable those who are responsible for violations of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Serhiy Kozyakov has formerly served as the so-called head of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) Central Electoral Commission and is currently the “minister of justice” of the LPR, and was listed by the EU for being responsible for organizing the so-called “elections” of November 2, 2014 in the LPR.  These “elections” were not authorized by the Government of Ukraine and were in breach of Ukrainian law.  Kozyakov is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; acting for or on behalf of the LPR; and asserting governmental authority over a part or region of Ukraine without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine. 

Vladyslav Deynego has served as a so-called deputy head of the People’s Council of the LPR and was listed by the EU for actively supporting actions and policies which undermine the territorial integrity and independence of Ukraine.  Deynego is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in, or engaging in, actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine and acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of the LPR. 

Sergey Tsyplakov is the current “prime minister” of the LPR and has served as the so-called head of the People’s Militia of Donbass, and was listed by the EU for being one of the leaders of the radical organization People’s Militia of Donbass and for taking an active part in the seizure of a number of state buildings in the Donetsk region.  Tsypkalov is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in, or having engaged in, actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; asserting governmental authority over a part or region of Ukraine without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine; and acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of the LPR and the People’s Militia of Donbass.

Vasily Nikitin is currently “deputy prime minister” for the LPR and has previously served as the so-called prime minister for the LPR and helped to organize the LPR’s illegal May 2014 referendum in favor of independence.  Nikitin is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in, or having engaged in, actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; asserting governmental authority over a part or region of Ukraine without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine; and acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of the LPR.

Aleksandr Kofman has served as the so-called foreign minister and first deputy speaker of the so-called “legislature” of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR).  He also stood as a candidate in the so-called “elections” of November 2014, which were in breach of Ukrainian law.  Kofman is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in, or having engaged in, actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; asserting governmental authority over a part or region of Ukraine without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine; and acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of the DPR.

Andrei Rodkin has served as the so-called representative of the DPR in Russia.  He also founded the Union of Donbass Volunteers, which supports Russians who fought in Ukraine. Rodkin is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in, or having engaged in, actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine and acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of the DPR.

Designations Regarding Former Yanukovych Officials (E.O. 13660)

Today’s action also targets two former Yanukovych regime officials pursuant to E.O. 13660, which authorizes sanctions against, among others, those threatening the security and stability of Ukraine, and those misappropriating public assets.  These individuals are Vitaliy Zakharchenko and Dmytro Tabachnyk, who are already on the EU sanctions list.  Today’s action supports the Ukrainian government’s efforts to target the misappropriation of state assets.  These designations also underscore our efforts to align our sanctions list with the EU, to the extent possible.

Vitaliy Zakharchenko issued the order on February 20, 2014 to use firearms against peaceful Euro-Maydan protestors in Ukraine, which resulted in dozens of deaths.  He is being designated for being responsible for or complicit in actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine, and for materially assisting former Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych, pursuant to E.O. 13660 on March 17, 2014. 

Dmytro Tabachnyk is accused by Ukrainian officials of the appropriation or embezzlement of funds under of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, and is being designated for engaging in the misappropriation of state assets of Ukraine.   

Designations Regarding Crimean Entities (E.O. 13685)

Today’s action also targets 12 entities pursuant to E.O. 13685, which authorizes sanctions on, among others, any person determined to be operating in the Crimea region of Ukraine in violation of E.O. 13685.  Targeting these entities for operating in the Crimea region of Ukraine underscores the United States’ commitment to opposing Russia’s occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea. 

These entities include three Russian banks and one Crimea-based bank (Joint Stock Company Genbank, Open Joint Stock Company Krasnodar Regional Investment Bank, Open Joint Stock Company Commercial Bank Verkhnevolzhsky, and Sevastopolsky Morskoy Bank); a Crimean state-owned enterprise engaged in air transportation (State Enterprise Universal-Avia); a distillery (the Crimean Enterprise Azov Distillery Plant); three wineries (State Concern National Production and Agricultural Association Massandra, State Enterprise Factory of Sparkling Wine Novy Svet, and State Enterprise Magarach of the National Institute of Wine); a health resort (Resort Nizhnyaya Oreanda); a Russian engineering company (Technopromexport); and a film production studio (the Yalta Film Studio).

Six of the 12 entities were previously designated by the EU.  These six entities are: State Enterprise Universal-Avia, the Crimean Enterprise Azov Distillery Plant, State Concern National Production and Agricultural Association Massandra, Resort Nizhnyaya Oreanda, State Enterprise Factory of Sparkling Wine Novy Svet, and State Enterprise Magarach of the National Institute of Wine.

Identifications Under the Sectoral Sanctions Identification List (E.O. 13662)

Today, OFAC also identified a number of subsidiaries of VTB Bank, Sberbank, and Rostec as being owned 50 percent or more by their respective parent entities.  The two banks and one defense company were previously sanctioned pursuant to E.O. 13662 in September 2014.  The subsidiaries identified today were already subject to the same financing restrictions as their respective parent entities per OFAC’s Revised Guidance on Entities Owned by Persons Whose Property and Interests in Property Are Blocked (“50 percent rule guidance”), which can be found here.  These identifications will help the public more effectively comply with the sanctions on VTB Bank, Sberbank, and Rostec.

For the identifying information related to today’s action, click here.

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https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062652459

Here is another link to the December Russian U.S treasuries sanctions list with someone named Tatiana Chernykh with date of birth and passport info(1) this person is an international manager for Khalashnikov.

Here is a job description of what an international manager does:
An international manager is a broad title for a manager who oversees a company's global operations. In some instances, an international manager is responsible for all of a company's foreign business. Large companies may employ multiple departmental global managers, such as those in charge of international sales, cultural marketing, or overseas manufacturing. An international manager must have a keen understanding of the company's needs abroad as well as the cultural, political and operational challenges of foreign markets and available opportunities. In addition to employee relations and business direction, budgetary and economic outlooks are key concerns of management staff. As such, an international manager should be extremely knowledgeable in finance, foreign currency and the overall global market. A bachelor's degree is necessary to work as an international manager.

International Manager Job Duties:
Like their domestic counterparts, international managers plan a company's global strategy, often hiring and delegating authority to implement new policies and practices. International managers who oversee specific departments in sales, marketing or finance are responsible for their respective division's foreign operation. Departmental managers may report to a company executive or deliberate with other global management staff to determine business methods according to ethical and legal standards.

International managers often manage several employees or divisions existing in one or more geographical locations. While human resource duties may or may not fall within a manager's job requirements, it is the manager's responsibility to ensure employees and business practices conform to country, regional and international regulations. Decision-making, communication and leadership skills are essential for the success of international management staff.

Just saying, if it was the same person and all.

1)https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../20151222.aspx

**plausible**

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Gennady Timchenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Timchenko

Gennady Nikolayevich Timchenko (also spelled Guennadi Timtchenko) (born 1952) is a Russian businessman and billionaire. He founded and owns the private ...

‎Early life and family - ‎Career - ‎Citizenship - ‎Wealth

Gennady Timchenko - Forbes

www.forbes.com/profile/gennady-timchenko/

Co-founder of the Gunvor Group, one of the largest international energy traders,Gennady Timchenko sold his 43% stake to his business partner Torbjorn ...

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In the news

Gunvor chief used $1bn dividend to cut ties with Russian founder

The Guardian‎ - 1 day ago

... of a $1bn dividend allowed him to settle his remaining debt toGennady Timchenko.

Gunvor boss used $1bn payout to sever ties with Russian oligarch - FT.com

Financial Times‎ - 1 day ago

More news for Gennady Timchenko

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Sanctioned Timchenko sells Gunvor stake - FT.com

www.ft.com › Companies › Energy › Oil & Gas

Mar 20, 2014 - Gennady Timchenko, who was sanctioned by the US Treasury on Thursday, has sold his shares in oil trader Gunvor in the clearest sign of the ...

Obama Hits Back at Putin With Gunvor Billionaire Sanction - Bloomberg

www.bloomberg.com/.../putin-is-investor-in-swiss-oil-trader-gunvor-u-s-...

Mar 20, 2014 - The U.S. Treasury Department yesterday imposed sanctions on Russian oil billionaire Gennady Timchenko -- and alleged Putin has a direct ...

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https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062652459

Photo of Tatiana's grandfather, Boris Chernykh, navy captain of Russian airplane cruiser Novorossiysk.




Also note the high ranked connections into Pakistani politics of Tashfeen Malik. Her uncle is minister for agriculture in the pakistani "golden crescent" district. Agriculture is politically responsible for certain plants containing opium ingredients ....
i posted the details and links earlier in that thread.


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https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062652459

Quote: Originally Posted by mbertrend  Here is another link to the December Russian U.S treasuries sanctions list with someone named Tatiana Chernykh with date of birth and passport info(1) this person is an international manager for Khalashnikov. Here is a job description of what an international manager does: An international manager is a broad title for a manager who oversees a company's global operations. In some instances, an international manager is responsible for all of a company's foreign business. Large companies may employ multiple departmental global managers, such as those in charge of international sales, cultural marketing, or overseas manufacturing. An international manager must have a keen understanding of the company's needs abroad as well as the cultural, political and operational challenges of foreign markets and available opportunities. In addition to employee relations and business direction, budgetary and economic outlooks are key concerns of management staff. As such, an international manager should be extremely knowledgeable in finance, foreign currency and the overall global market. A bachelor's degree is necessary to work as an international manager. International Manager Job Duties: Like their domestic counterparts, international managers plan a company's global strategy, often hiring and delegating authority to implement new policies and practices. International managers who oversee specific departments in sales, marketing or finance are responsible for their respective division's foreign operation. Departmental managers may report to a company executive or deliberate with other global management staff to determine business methods according to ethical and legal standards. International managers often manage several employees or divisions existing in one or more geographical locations. While human resource duties may or may not fall within a manager's job requirements, it is the manager's responsibility to ensure employees and business practices conform to country, regional and international regulations. Decision-making, communication and leadership skills are essential for the success of international management staff. Just saying, if it was the same person and all. 1)https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../20151222.aspx **plausible** this is NOT the same Tatiana Chernykh. This one in your link is Tatiana V Chernykh while the other Tatiana Chernykh (Farook's wife) is Tatiana A Chernykh (A stands for Anatolyeva since her fathers name is Anatoly)
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28-12-2015, 11:14 PM

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mbertrend Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 16 Likes: 1 (1 Post)

Oops Oops my bad I thought maybe by chance that the "V" might be Valentina or something like that. Sorry for my mistake thought maybe she was named after her mom or something like that. It was mentioned that Mom Valentina had taken the last name in 2011? Is it possible that Valentina and Anatoli had just been in some sort of common law situation prior to this? While The daughter took the last/middle name at a prior/later date? A Ukrainian passport is good for 10 years I'm pretty sure and this one expires in November2020 so 2010.. so just saying. Last edited by mbertrend; 28-12-2015 at 11:47 PM.

28-12-2015, 07:55 PM	#13
bluebirdgr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,907 Likes: 358 (198 Posts)	Quote: Originally Posted by mbertrend  Here is another link to the December Russian U.S treasuries sanctions list with someone named Tatiana Chernykh with date of birth and passport info(1) this person is an international manager for Khalashnikov. Here is a job description of what an international manager does: An international manager is a broad title for a manager who oversees a company's global operations. In some instances, an international manager is responsible for all of a company's foreign business. Large companies may employ multiple departmental global managers, such as those in charge of international sales, cultural marketing, or overseas manufacturing. An international manager must have a keen understanding of the company's needs abroad as well as the cultural, political and operational challenges of foreign markets and available opportunities. In addition to employee relations and business direction, budgetary and economic outlooks are key concerns of management staff. As such, an international manager should be extremely knowledgeable in finance, foreign currency and the overall global market. A bachelor's degree is necessary to work as an international manager. International Manager Job Duties: Like their domestic counterparts, international managers plan a company's global strategy, often hiring and delegating authority to implement new policies and practices. International managers who oversee specific departments in sales, marketing or finance are responsible for their respective division's foreign operation. Departmental managers may report to a company executive or deliberate with other global management staff to determine business methods according to ethical and legal standards. International managers often manage several employees or divisions existing in one or more geographical locations. While human resource duties may or may not fall within a manager's job requirements, it is the manager's responsibility to ensure employees and business practices conform to country, regional and international regulations. Decision-making, communication and leadership skills are essential for the success of international management staff. Just saying, if it was the same person and all. 1)https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../20151222.aspx **plausible** this is NOT the same Tatiana Chernykh. This one in your link is Tatiana V Chernykh while the other Tatiana Chernykh (Farook's wife) is Tatiana A Chernykh (A stands for Anatolyeva since her fathers name is Anatoly)
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28-12-2015, 11:14 PM	#14
mbertrend Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 16 Likes: 1 (1 Post)	Oops Oops my bad I thought maybe by chance that the "V" might be Valentina or something like that. Sorry for my mistake thought maybe she was named after her mom or something like that. It was mentioned that Mom Valentina had taken the last name in 2011? Is it possible that Valentina and Anatoli had just been in some sort of common law situation prior to this? While The daughter took the last/middle name at a prior/later date? A Ukrainian passport is good for 10 years I'm pretty sure and this one expires in November2020 so 2010.. so just saying. Last edited by mbertrend; 28-12-2015 at 11:47 PM.

28-12-2015, 11:35 PM	#15
frase Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,957 Likes: 380 (176 Posts)	Was a total hoax. No one died no one got hurt

29-12-2015, 05:51 AM	#16
bluebirdgr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,907 Likes: 358 (198 Posts)	Quote: Originally Posted by mbertrend  Oops my bad I thought maybe by chance that the "V" might be Valentina or something like that. Sorry for my mistake thought maybe she was named after her mom or something like that. It was mentioned that Mom Valentina had taken the last name in 2011? Is it possible that Valentina and Anatoli had just been in some sort of common law situation prior to this? While The daughter took the last/middle name at a prior/later date? A Ukrainian passport is good for 10 years I'm pretty sure and this one expires in November2020 so 2010.. so just saying. like in arab countries it is also the case in slavic countries that the first name of the father becomes the middle name of their children. The final gender "eva" or "ova" means "daughter" while "vic" or "vich" means "son". So Tatiana's full name is Tatiana Anatolyeva Chernykh. Her brother's name is Andrei Anatolyevich Chernykh. The mother's name never has got any influence on the children's names.

29-12-2015, 07:14 AM	#17
mbertrend Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 16 Likes: 1 (1 Post)	Daily Mail Article The Daily Mail Article says that they are Jewish, normally they take they mothers middle name on first child no? Also The article states that they were from Vyosky Russia, the Passport states that the persons nationality is Russian as well but was issued as Ukrainian? Also there are IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC within a 2-3 hr just of that place alone.

29-12-2015, 07:26 AM

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bluebirdgr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,907 Likes: 358 (198 Posts)

Quote: Originally Posted by mbertrend  The Daily Mail Article says that they are Jewish, normally they take they mothers middle name on first child no? Also The article states that they were from Vyosky Russia, the Passport states that the persons nationality is Russian as well but was issued as Ukrainian? Also there are IZHEVSKY MEKHANICHESKY ZAVOD JSC within a 2-3 hr just of that place alone. they are from Voronesh, Russia. Tatiana's full name was listed in her 2005 marriage certificate as Tatiana Anatolyeva Chernykh when she married Peter Paul Gigliotti jr. in Richmond/VA. There is also her full name in a US court order when she sued the State of California and a bank. Her lawsuit was dismissed by the judge only 3 weeks before the SB terror happened. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...ociation_et_al http://www.open-public-records.com/c...a-15403521.htm i had already posted that court case earlier (already on the same day of the shooting) Last edited by bluebirdgr; 29-12-2015 at 07:35 AM.